voting lines are open

I submitted a former blog post into a short-story contest on DailyWritingTips.com. They’re choosing winners based on votes, so… go on over and vote. (You have until Saturday.)

Of course, to be fair, I should encourage you to read all the entries (you really only need to read the first one) and vote for the one you think deserves to win (again, you only really need to read the first one). No, I’m serious. I don’t want sympathy or obligatory votes (well, I do, but you know…).

That’s all folks!

Go vote!

(Pretty please!)

Comments

510 Responses to “voting lines are open”
  1. Duh…of course you are the only one worth voting for.

  2. Birgit says:

    That’s so great! Will go over and have a look :)

  3. can i vote on this being my ALL-TIME FAVORITE header of yours?????

  4. 1godsgal says:

    OK…voted…there was this really cool piece about a symphony…

    :lol: JUST KIDDING!!!! Love you

  5. alece says:

    mandy — really?! thanks!

    deb — i know! i actually like the symphony one better! and it’s totally kickin’ my butt right now! ha!

  6. Hannah says:

    i loved that story the first time. it was worth reading again, just because i remembered how much i loved it when it was on your blog. :) so i voted for that Alece lady. she is phenomenal!
    I <3 you.

  7. Hannah says:

    whoa, i love your new header!

  8. yeller
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    woah…how did i miss three posts!?

    voted.

  9. alece says:

    hannah — thanks, maam!

    yeller — i’m a blogging MACHINE!

  10. Heidi
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    Voted!!

    Didn’t like the symphony one.

    I have rose colored glasses on too.

    I only support my friend in this.

  11. alece says:

    awww…. thanks, heidi! :-)

    (how’s your head?)

  12. 1godsgal says:

    Actually Alece…I have 9 computers at work…so hey…time for a little catch up!!!! heh heh

  13. alece says:

    you just made me laugh out loud! thanks, deb!

  14. Heidi
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    A little punchy..But tons better

    But it’s only 6:38 and no coffee yet. I have alot to do. SO I need to find a coffee IV.

    (how’s the tum)

  15. alece says:

    eish, heidi. was your morning walk doubly-good? i sure hope so.

    my tummy’s about the same. i’m taking it slow and easy, but will head out soon to run some errands with my mom… (sigh)

  16. Thats awesome…I really liked that story. I’m sure if I know your readers, you’ll win that contest hands down!

  17. Heidi
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    I’m putting on my shoes right now!!
    I’m so excited.
    Got any requests to go on my prayer cards?

    Take it easy friend and DON’T overdue it or I’m coming to LI to mess you up.. LOL

  18. ummmm, fyi… the symphony one is winning right now, so everyone better get on over there…….

  19. alece says:

    mo — if it’s anything like the puppy contest, i know i can count on my g&g family!

    heidi — on your way! i’m smiling for you because i know how much you love this time… requests: tummy, money, and my honey (after the first 2, i figured i’d keep the theme going) — niel flies out of SA on wednesday.

  20. alece says:

    mo — see… my biggest problem is that even i prefer the symphony one to my own story!

  21. Heidi
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    Got it…

    Lovin and prayin

  22. @ngie
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    working right now…

    I’ll be back…

  23. Brandy says:

    I’m going to vote a hundred times today. :D Really.

  24. Becca says:

    I voted, I voted!
    This was easier than voting for the elections….obtaining an absentee ballot and everything. Stupid absentee ballot.
    Anyway.

    I sure do like this story.

    and I love you!

    Also, I love your header.

  25. Kitty says:

    you are getting seriously fancy w/ your header… it looks AWESOME… how’d you do that?!?

    I need an “i voted” sticker to wear proudly…

  26. i’m w/ brandy…i’ve already voted 5 times already!!!! So the results are skewed…we love our alece!!!

  27. alece says:

    brandy and cathi — it only lets you vote one time from any given computer… so thanks anyway! :-)

    becca — thanks for providing such great fodder for stories…

    amers — i laughed at the mental image of you wearing an “i voted sticker”. (did you know i ran for treasurer of the student council when i was in 4th grade?! ha!!) AND… i used handy-dandy picnik.com to make my banner…

  28. i voted at work AND at home.

    you’re so very welcome. ;)

  29. Brandy says:

    Seriously?!

    Do you know how much time I spent going back and voting and voting and voting and voting! :lol: Oh man! That’s funny!! hahaha!!!

  30. alece says:

    oooh… thanks, mandypants.

    and brandy – it DOES say something like “your vote has already been counted” any time you try to repeat-vote…

    oops! :-)

  31. Heidi
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    Hey… Your moving up!!!

    I need that placard for my lawn..

    Vote for Alece!!!!

    Hi Becca!!

  32. alece says:

    the 3 of us need to plan a time to “get together” to talk about silence…

  33. Heidi
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    I’m game.. I’m up for it anytime and I think it would create a good discussion here on the blog

  34. Heidi
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    You changed YOUR header!!!

    Looks awesome. Do you know these kids pictured?

  35. Jen says:

    I voted this morning and just made my mom vote too. :)

    I liked the symphony one, too, though… It brought back memories of my years in band…

    And, I agree – the header looks great!

  36. @ngie
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    Oo that picnik.com looks like fun. :-) The header does look very nice.

    The gap is closing on the poll my friend. that is so cool that you were listed first…

    You are so cool – thanks for letting us know about the contest.

  37. Brandy says:

    they do tell you? Geesh! I don’t think I hung around long enough on that page to even look, I just kept voting. HAHA!!! :blush:

    Hey Heidi, you get that address yet? ;-) heehee

  38. Brandy says:

    OH! HAHA!!

    It says “thank you, we have already counted your vote”
    HAHAHA!!!

    doofus! haha!!

  39. Brandy says:

    me, the doofus

    not you ;-) ha!

  40. alece says:

    heidi — maybe sometime tonight will work?! let’s see… and yes, i changed my header! i don’t know the kids, but i took the picture at a children’s ministry event we hosted.

    jen — i know! i love the symphony piece as well.

    @ngie — i was also surprised to see my essay listed first!

    brandy/doofus — you make me laugh. so… you want my address?

    cathi — i rock your socks?! thanks for the comment love over at the contest. you made my heart do a cartwheel.

  41. Heidi
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    Nope.. I guess I am not persuasive yet!!

  42. Heidi
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    Alece it’s a deal…

  43. Becca says:

    I’m here, I’m here!

  44. Brandy says:

    um YEAH I want you address! And I think Niel might want me to have your address as well. :lol: heehee ;-)

  45. alece says:

    where is heidi?
    where is heidi?

  46. alece says:

    brandy – my oh my oh my… you are one persistent little bugger. (you and your lullaboobie!)

    we’re trying to get heidi back over here for a much-delayed conversation. feel free to stick around for it!

  47. Becca says:

    How do I know when someone comments?

  48. alece says:

    refresh
    refresh
    refresh

  49. alece says:

    yay! you made it…

    thank you for your post, friend. for sharing your beautiful heart…

  50. Heidi
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    That was a tear jerker.. for me anyways

  51. Heidi
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    So Becca you start

  52. alece says:

    it was for me, too… (are you kidding me?!?!)

    ha – and you’re making becca start?!?! i think you should get us going… i”m trying to even remember where we left off on the “silent” stuff. i’m gonna search my comments and see if i can find it…

  53. Heidi
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    Okay I will… the post was about the the merry go around wasn’t it?

  54. Heidi
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    AHHHH this 41 year old brain!!

    You said you were having a 3 hour marathon phone call with a friend right?

  55. alece says:

    yes… and becca was said friend.

  56. Heidi
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    See my mind isn’t as clear..

    Or it might be all the chemicals I snorted today.

  57. alece says:

    maybe we should start the conversation THERE!

  58. Becca says:

    A conversation about cocaine dependency? …This is not what I thought I was agreeing to.

  59. alece says:

    ha ha ha!

    hi… my name is alece and i’m a blog-addict.

    “hi alece!”

  60. Heidi
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    Stop laughing. if You read my post today, you would find me having an affair with ajax and mr clean.

  61. alece says:

    so what’d you snort today, heidi?!

  62. alece says:

    ohhhh… THOSE chemicals! (i didn’t know what you had stashed in your closet… sheeesh!) and i did read that post… remember i even offered to don rubber gloves and join you!

  63. Becca says:

    those are lethal combinations.
    Like when you get your animal, based on the year you’re born (I’m an OX…mooo.), and they say: the OX and the chicken get along. Beware of the horse.

    It’s kinda like that.
    That’s what I think.

  64. Heidi
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    Okay I just read all the comments.

    Silence on the phone with close friends.

    Why isn’t awkward?

  65. you’re SO close!!! i might have to hijack all the computers @ the library.

  66. alece says:

    way to jump right in there, heidi! leavin’ becca talkin’ about horses… Ha! (this is the way we ride here, becca — pay attention, refresh often, and hang on tight!)

  67. alece says:

    (do it, mandy!! and stick around for the comment conversation going on if you can!)

  68. Heidi
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    k, Mandy you’ll be perfect in this, stay on.

  69. Becca says:

    It’s not awkward for me because I know that I’ll have something to talk about the whole time. Either I’ll be saying it, or she will… And a lot of our conversation seems to be spontaneous– like, “ooh! I just saw a cow!” and conversation looks more like spaghetti than… boxes?

  70. alece says:

    (and just so you ladies know, i made a cup of tea just for the occasion. so it kinda — KINDA —- feels like we’re just having a tea-break together…)

  71. Heidi
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    The question ladies is:

    Why isn’t it awkward to have silence on the phone betwwen friends?

  72. alece says:

    spaghetti! ha. but yeah, you’re right, it does… we follow the train of thought until it seems to mesh into another one. we’ll usually get back to the original noodle eventually, especially if it’s important…

  73. Becca says:

    I ate steak for dinner.
    Yeesss.

  74. alece says:

    for me it isn’t awkward when it’s with a friend that i feel comfortable enough to have silence with IN PERSON.

  75. Becca says:

    Because it seems like I can tell what she’s thinking. If there is silence, it’s because we were pondering what was just said, I suppose.

  76. Heidi
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    Okay… I understand the meshing…

    But do you ever run out of something to say?

  77. Becca says:

    I’d agree- if I can have silence in person, it seems much easier on the phone.

  78. alece says:

    with most people, yes.

    with my best friend, no.

  79. Becca says:

    I’m hoping the person on the other end has something to say if I run out of everything to say. Haha.

  80. Heidi
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    so do you guys finish each other sentences?

  81. alece says:

    when the silence is a result of running out of things to say, i think that’s when it’s awkward. it’s as though you can hear the wheels spinning in both brains, as each one frantically grasps for something to break the silence.

    that’s nowhere near the same kind of comfortable awkwardness between close friends.

  82. Heidi
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    To me it’s hard to have a conversation on the phone because I am so excited and I blurt out everything in 2 minutes.

    Do you guys talk often?

  83. Becca says:

    Haha.
    We talk often, yes. We find a way to say hello at least it seems everyday.
    Either by phone or email or text or somethin.

  84. alece says:

    we do now. we never did before. and we probably won’t for a looooong time when i go back to SA. (well, hopefully we can manage weekly chats when we can…)

  85. alece says:

    and yes – some kind of contact everyday, but real talks… almost everyday or at least every-every-other. (although this is the first friend i’ve ever done that with!)

  86. Heidi
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    I guess where I was leaning into last comment fest was.. true transparancey is so difficult for me.

    Is it hard for you AWAY from your relationship?

  87. alece says:

    what do you mean?

  88. alece says:

    and i need to just say this, too: transparency is really hard for me, too. it’s something i’ve really challenged myself to grow in over the past 2 years… it does not come naturally to me, and i’m always amazed by people to whom it seems to just come easily…

  89. Heidi
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    Hmmm.

    For me to step out and be transparent with my friends or others, i need a REAL security of trust.
    Like I have found in you Alece recently. I’m just starting that on my blog.

    But when it comes to my emotions I so wish to write them then share them.

    You too are very close and that’s awesome, but in other realtionships do you share this same trust and transparency or does it depend?

  90. Becca says:

    It depends, but I do share a surprising amount with a handful of other friends.
    Transparency on a lot of levels comes fairly easily to me. I see it as a chance for other people to learn from my mistakes, or to see Jesus in me when I don’t, or…to get help, instead of struggling through something alone.

  91. alece says:

    i could “ditto” your entire first paragraph. i need a real security of trust, too…

    this depth of trust/transparency doesn’t exist in most of my other relationships. i have one other friend right now i feel i can go there with in the same way, although our lives don’t allow for that (time/schedule-wise) right now. but when we have those moments to connect, it’s that same open-heart-ness…

    but i don’t do that across the board.

  92. alece says:

    AND i absolutely find it much easier to write about my emotions than to talk about them…

  93. Becca says:

    I’d prefer to write out my emotions also.

  94. roo says:

    OOH!
    Lecey AND Becca! Joyness!

  95. alece says:

    (read up a bit, roo, and then jump on in!)

  96. ok, so i voted from each computer in the computer lab…

  97. alece says:

    cathi — you ROCK!

    have time to chat?!

  98. alece says:

    (and i’m STILL not ahead! dang that fantastic symphony essay!)

  99. Heidi
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    Becca.. you hit on a word for me.

    I’m very extroverted. I love to be in a crowd.
    Because I can handle multiple conversations they say I am shallow!!

    But what they don’t know is what I do later. Sometimes cry or just pray over that.

    I use my struggles too.. for them to see God’s glory.

    But, I don’t want to be a drama queen, so I suck in my emotions and just share facts, until a trust has formed.

    Are you guys extroverted or introverted?

    Have ever been called shallow?

  100. Becca says:

    Ha ha. All these people are pulling for you.
    haha.

  101. alece says:

    (right here, cathi — scroll up to catch up and then just jump in!)

  102. roo says:

    Oops. Speaking of cyber lovin’… David is online just for a bit longer. I’ll catch up soon. And be back a bit after that. :D I’m around… in a bit!

  103. give me a minute…i’ll be a sec

  104. alece says:

    i’m introverted.

    and i have been called shallow, in many different ways. some people feel they should be close to me (or rather that i should be close to them), for whatever reason, and i am not, also for whatever reason, and that has led to some hurts on both sides. i feel some of that simply as a leader in our ministry; i’ll never be able to live up to the expectations of all our staff and interns to be my friend (really and truly my friend…)

  105. alece says:

    “I suck in my emotions and just share facts, until a trust has formed.” — i do that, too.

    sometimes it’s not even until trust has formed; i just deem that someone does not need to know or be given that glimpse deeper into me than i want them to have, so i just don’t go there.

    is that wrong?

  106. Becca says:

    I am very much an introvert. Which is why I’m not a particularly large fan of the phone sometimes.

    Being able to multi-task is a gift. I don’t think it means you’re shallow.

    Since I am an introvert, I don’t mean to generalize, but they tend to be observers. You know, as an introvert, who is a good listener and who isn’t simply by standing in a crowd listening. So I share after weeks of silence, so to speak.
    I share with people I know will listen to me.

    I’ve never been called shallow, but I have been called “too deep”. haha.

  107. Heidi
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    Wow…

    True me also. Because I am friedly with everyone, I have a plentiful mass of friends.

    My true friends I count on one hand.

  108. Becca says:

    My first typo. Gasp!
    Hope you understood that without the words I typed in my head. haha.

  109. alece says:

    me, too, heidi.

  110. alece says:

    (new rule: no apologies for typos allowed on here.)

  111. alece says:

    and yes, becca, i understood! ;)

  112. Heidi
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    My last comment made no sense. I’m trying to multi task..

    People think I have a mass of friends but I really don’t

  113. Heidi
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    Is it wrong to suck it in”?

    Probably most counselors would think so. I don’t think so. I am comfortable with all my raw emotions just fine!!! Lol

    Yea we should share.

  114. alece says:

    (need to pee – be right back! darn tea!)

  115. alece says:

    i’m a little confuzled by your last comment, heidi… did it end prematurely?

  116. Becca says:

    It’s a gauge- I’m silent, and therefore people take me as stuck up sometimes. You happen to just share facts, and I guess that means people think you’re shallow…
    I think that if I don’t work on that, even though I think my way is fine, people are always going to assume incorrect things about me for the first few weeks they know me. ha.

  117. alece says:

    but where’s the line between authenticity (being who you are, as long as it’s not hurting others) and meeting people where they’re at (changing so as not to give the wrong impression)???

  118. alece says:

    yay for cathi’s back!

  119. Heidi
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    I’m saying I’m okay with not sharing my raw emotions with everyone.

    Is it wrong… probably.

    Yea.. we need to share them more. I guess

  120. alece says:

    cathi, meet becca.
    becca, meet cathi.

  121. Heidi
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    hi cathi, I’m Heidi

  122. alece says:

    i don’t know that it’s wrong for us not to share our raw emotions with everyone. i think i’m trying to discover for myself what authenticity truly means… and i don’t think it means that i’d automatically share with person A what i might share with person B.

  123. Heidi
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    But is there a line of authenticity?

  124. Becca says:

    Is it wrong? No. I don’t share my raw emotions with the girl who cuts my hair, or the kid who checks me out when I buy cereal from the store.

  125. alece says:

    oh — i thought you two knew each other!?!?! you don’t?!?! ohmycow! i’m glad you guys are meeting here! (sorry for my lack of hosting skills!)

  126. cathi says:

    hi becca, hi heidi!
    i’m an introverted extrovert and i love this statement:
    “it’s just like how i enjoy doing “nothing” with people i’m close to. i don’t need to be entertained; i don’t need every moment to be filled with activity. often my greatest memories involve my couch, someone i love, and a whole lot of nothing.”

    that describes much of my marriage and i LOVE IT!

  127. alece says:

    that sounds reeeeeally familiar… what’s that from?!?!

  128. alece says:

    nevermind. i’m a dork.

  129. Heidi
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    Okay Becca,

    What about family?

  130. alece says:

    becca — “or the kid who checks me out…” shoot, girl… look at you! gettin’ checked out so often it made the hypothetical list. ow ow!

  131. Heidi
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    They are suppose to be the closest. They are blood related

  132. Becca says:

    oh the dreaded word!
    What in particular about family?

  133. Heidi
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    Hahahha. I didn’t even catch that!!

  134. i’m lost again….adhd kicks in right about now…

  135. Heidi
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    family? is that the dreaded word?

  136. alece says:

    cathi – the fact that you can say that describes your marriage is so so so wonderful. i hope you know what a gift that is!! i am sure you do!

  137. alece says:

    heidi – are you saying that we should have the closest relationships with family members because they’re family?

  138. Heidi
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    Cathi- your God rocked your world with your husband..

  139. Becca says:

    I am not close with my family. My idea of authenticity in that area is……….. short, abbreviated, staccato.

  140. Becca says:

    I’m the absolute antithesis. I’d rather share my deepest, darkest secrets with a homeless person than any member of my family

  141. Becca says:

    (see? We all have room to grow…. Eesh)

  142. Heidi
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    Me too..

    I wrote a post tonight about my son and his abnormality.

    What I didn’t put in the post, because I am always afraid she’ll google me. Is that she wanted me to abort my son.

    I am so there. Alece knows more about me than my mom.

    But there are days, especially because she has cancer where I feel that I should be authentic with her. But I can’t

  143. alece says:

    heidi, i think God’s ideal design was for the family unit to be our strongest community, but if it’s not i don’t think it’s wrong for us to seek it out elsewhere.

  144. Heidi
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    I was talking about my mom.. I left the word out. oops.

  145. Becca says:

    Wow. I’m glad you didn’t take her advice.

    I’m a novice when it comes to doing the right thing in the family department.

  146. alece says:

    i’m so sorry, heidi. i understand you feeling more torn with your mom’s illness… (and i wondered if it was her when you mentioned that family members encouraged you to have an abortion…)

    would your sharing more of yourself with her now really be because you’d hope she’d share more of herself with you? or because you want her to know you more/better?

  147. hey thanks! I love the fact that i don’t have to say a thing when i don’t feel like talking…which is quite often.
    My favorite is just sitting. we do road trips a lot…driving in the car from cleveland to florida, and we maybe have a collective 1/2 hour of chatting…other than that, we’re listening to music or staring out the window saying, “ooh”, an one knows exactly what the other means. it’s nice really.

    so, getting to the other part of the convo…this whole silence thing CAN most DEFINITELY contribute awkwardness to a phone conversation. Except w/ my slice…sometimes it’s just nice to hear each other breath. all others…it’s just weird.

  148. Heidi
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    wow.. very poignant Alece.

    I think that’s why God’s intimacy is so important to me. I lost trust in the model He provided and I have learned to grow elsewhere.

  149. alece says:

    and boy am i glad you didn’t take her advice either. iceman is precious, and i can’t wait to see what God does with his life.

  150. Becca says:

    I am so envious of my friends who have great relationships with their brothers, or their parents. I don’t lack a good relationship with my parents…They don’t hate me, they’ve supported everything I’ve ever done (except getting my eyebrow pierced), it just lacks authenticity a lot.

  151. wow…i’m too slow for this conversation…i feel so inappropriate writing about cars and phones…i’m sorry heidi, i didn’t mean to take away the honor of your story.

  152. Heidi
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    I don’t know Alece.. right now, probably out of guilt.

    Cathi- I so know what you mean driving in silence and then oohs and aws and he only understands.

  153. alece says:

    cathi — “sometimes it’s just nice to hear each other breathe.” absolutely. i love that with niel. we don’t feel the need to fill our roadtrips together with a lot of chatter, either. it’s wonderfully refreshing to spend that time together, close and “intimate” without saying much of anything at all.

  154. roo says:

    Hokay, I’m back.
    Oooh, authenticity.
    Hm, I’ve realized recently that in certain situations, I’m incredibly transparent. I am who I am. But that’s not always 100% true.

  155. alece says:

    no worries, catheter!

  156. alece says:

    heidi — i think transparency out of guilt is maybe not really even transparency anymore. i don’t think you should guilt your way into sharing more than you actually want to. i think you’ll end up with a hurting heart if you do. but i don’t really know…

    roo — welcome back!

  157. roo says:

    Dag. So many related but separate thoughts going through my head right now! Cathi, I agree entirely. Silence is sometimes my favorite means of communication.

  158. roo says:

    CATHETER!? Really?
    Ouch.

  159. Heidi
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    Roo.. I totally agree..

    Okay back to silence,

    is silence because of lack of thought or yearning for more? or not wanting to let go?

  160. alece says:

    woah, great list, heidi. i think it can be any of those, or all.

  161. Heidi
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    Alece- I don’t put much energy in my relationship with my mom. I talk to her (about the kids) 4-5 times a year.

  162. roo says:

    Hm. Sometimes for me it’s lack of thought. Sometimes it’s too many thoughts. Sometimes it’s just a total feeling of comfort and relaxation. Most often, though, it’s a feeling of not needing to talk to communicate something that’s just known. That I enjoy someone’s company, that I trust them, that I appreciate any time I get to have with them – even the silent times. Especially the silent times. I’m a huge silent fan.

  163. alece says:

    (and we’re not done with this authenticity stuff yet – let’s come back at some point!)

  164. Becca says:

    hmmm… That’s a very good question.
    Sometimes not wanting to let go I think.
    Also, sometimes a little silence is needed for people to gather their thoughts.

  165. roo says:

    I think… that the authenticity ties into the silence thing.
    Can you feel comfortable being silent with someone with whom you aren’t authentic?

  166. Becca says:

    hmmmmm…. I don’t think I can- not for a long time, and certainly not on the phone.

  167. alece says:

    heidi — you and i need to write those “relationship with my mom” emails…

    * * *

    i recently cried on the phone with a friend. not like sniffles and teary eyes, but real crying. i’ve never done that with someone on the phone before, except my husband. there was a lot of silence during it, as i tried to gain composure… but the silence felt “good” in that i knew i was “with” a friend… that i was with someone who loved and cared for me, even as i was falling apart via telephony.

  168. Brandy says:

    I’m here! I’m here!!

  169. Brandy says:

    going to read back through now…. be back ;-) You guys are chatty! :lol:

  170. alece says:

    roo — “Can you feel comfortable being silent with someone with whom you aren’t authentic?”

    no…

    for me, silence is a gift of trust.

  171. Heidi
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    jump in.. no trench coats or high heels tonight.

    pretty heavy tonight

  172. roo says:

    Shame. I hate crying over the phone. But I’ve done it (often with my mom on the other end). It isn’t that I don’t feel comfortable, though… it’s more that I don’t want the other person to feel that helpless feeling that one gets when they can’t even provide much comfort. Because I hate that feeling, much as I like having friends who can cry to me.

  173. alece says:

    yeah – i felt that a bit, and tried expressing that to my friend. i felt uncomfortable FOR HER. i know what you mean…

  174. Becca says:

    I’d prefer not to cry over the phone- if I’m gonna cry, I’d rather have someone’s hand to hold.
    But I have cried on the phone with…three people I think. And each time I could feel their hands, so to speak.

  175. alece says:

    and yet, i knew that even if it made her feel uncomfortable or at a loss, that even more than that, she wanted to be there for me… so that reassured me.

  176. alece says:

    preference? heck yeah – no phone crying.

    but…

    sigh.

  177. roo says:

    Yeah. That is true. I guess I’ve spent so much time holding it back until later that I am really frustrated with myself that I can’t just wait and break down when it won’t effect someone else.

  178. alece says:

    heidi, we’ve gotten a little off course on the trail of tears here… what else are you thinking about?

  179. Becca says:

    See this silence? it’s beautiful.

  180. alece says:

    (i don’t like crying in general, although i do seem to do it an awful lot!)

  181. Brandy says:

    All caught up! :D

    WOW, heavy heavy tonight girls! ;-)

  182. alece says:

    whatcha got to throw in, bran muffin?

  183. Brandy says:

    oh boy, I feel nervous for some reason…. mostly b/c I have lots to say that I feel would be little input??

  184. alece says:

    no, no, no… say it bran… i’d love to hear your thoughts.

  185. Becca says:

    say what you need to say, say what you need to say….

    so says John Mayer.

  186. alece says:

    mmm… great song.

  187. Brandy says:

    I’m an extrovert completely. I thrive off of friendships with other people. But I am also a homebody, mostly since having kids, which is why blogging has become a huge thing for me.

    I feel like I am authentic with pretty much everyone I talk to. That doesn’t mean that I spill my guts to them the minute I feel like I can call them friend. Even now there is so much in my life that I don’t blog about b/c a public blog just isn’t the appropriate outlet. That part of my life slowly comes out in emails or conversations.

    Silence during phone conversations….depends on the person. So does what I will say in a conversation. With some people I am guarded, and others I am very open. I was just having this EXACT conversation with my best phone friend tonight. I say phone friend b/c I haven’t seen her since before Dylan was born. Our friendship is stricly phone related now.

    Okay, I don’t even know where I was going…. I need to hit submit now. HAHA!!!

  188. Heidi
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    I’m sorry gals.. I had some internet problems.
    I’m back what did I miss?

  189. Becca says:

    We missed you.
    Thanks for coming back.

  190. Brandy says:

    oh, and Jake and I never talk during car trips. I love it. ANd I had to smile when Cath described her marriage b/c that is me and Jake…. sit on the couch and don’t talk but it’s a GOOD silence. A comfortable silence. And sometimes we will both laugh at the same thing on tv without saying “hey, wasn’t that funny?” b/c we know the other thought so. Make sense?

    We’re just….comfortable. And I’ve recently become more comfortable telling him when I’m mad too. I used to be afraid of that….afraid of confrontation.

  191. alece says:

    you raised a good question for me… maybe authenticity doesn’t have as much to do with “baring my soul” as i’ve always imagined it to. what’s the difference really?

  192. Brandy says:

    HI BECCA
    HI HEIDI
    HI CATHI
    HI ROO
    HI ALECE

    did I miss anyone?? ;-)

  193. Brandy says:

    not putting up a fake front about who you are or what your personality is…..just to suit the other person.

    I think anyway. ;-)

  194. alece says:

    afraid of confrontation… mmm… i don’t dread it as much as i once used to either.

  195. Becca says:

    You missed cheech and chong. They’re individuals too, you know.

  196. alece says:

    leave them out of this!

  197. Brandy says:

    hey cheech
    sup chong
    :lol: haha

    Confrontation…. yeah I hate it. Like, a lot. It’s never been good in my life. This has been something that made my counselor a lot of money. HA!!

  198. alece says:

    so… authenticity: being real, but not necessarily being the same slice of real with everybody????

  199. roo says:

    Hey, Brandy! Good to see you! I’ve been lurking for a while… oops.
    One thing I love about this blog world of ours is that I get to know people – y’all are so well expressed – in a way that I can’t compare to other relationships, quite. :) I love that we’re all sharing our hearts.

  200. Brandy says:

    am I missing something about cheech and chong? I feel like I am. haha!!

    They aren’t boobs are they? :shock:

  201. roo says:

    YES, ‘lece. You’ve got it.

  202. Heidi
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    They don’t know how to behave either!!!

    Who taught you about authenticity? Who was your example?

  203. alece says:

    roo — yes, me, too! my blog community has really evolved in recent months, and i wouldn’t trade it for the world. i’ve gone “deep” with some wonderful women and my life is certainly richer for it.

    i do find it easier in a lot of ways to get to a point of closeness/intimacy in a relationship over the internet than in person. which makes me think i’m not as exciting/fun/easy-to-get-to-know/likeable in person as i am in writing. but… i’m still figuring that one out.

  204. alece says:

    brandy — you have a one-track mind, you know?!?! cheech and chong are my tonsils!!!

  205. roo says:

    Hm. I had negative examples, Heidi. I grew up being overly “me” just so I was obviously not the other people. I’ve toned it down a lot, now, and it’s become a (sometimes) clean-cut authenticity. I’m open with people. Who I am is just what there is. I don’t have anything else to share, really. It sometimes gets confused with shyness or snobbery. But it’s really just me, whether uncomfortable or frustrated or totally at peace with a situation.

  206. roo says:

    ‘Lecey, you’re definitely that cool in person. I wish I’d outgrown some of my awkwardnesses before I left this last year… so I could’ve told you that in person.

  207. alece says:

    i haven’t had very good examples of authenticity… my family is not very communicative. more the passive-aggressive silent communicator type. i’m trying desperately to break free from that. (Lord, help me!)

  208. Brandy says:

    not being the same slice of real with everybody…ummmm I guess? That does make sense.

    I’m not going to be the me that Jake knows with anyone else.

    I have things that I only say to my best phone friend (Toni in any future mention of her) b/c only she will understand or get it. Well, I’ll give you a for instance….and this might read bad but I assure you it’s not. ;-)

    She can call me and say “I’m having a shakey baby day” and I know that in a million years she’d never ever do that, but it’s how she is expressing her frustration to me. I can say things like to her like “I’m so mad I could punch Jake in the face” and she knows I’m venting frustration and would NEVER ever do that sort of thing. We laugh about the way we describe our frustrations. But if I were to say that you in one of our first emails back and forth….you might raise an eyebrow and thing “ummm spousal abuse?”

    Make sense?

    Gosh I read through that and it sounds slightly bad. My point is that, we can say things and express things to each other that we can’t do with everyone, b/c we “GET” each other. And it takes time to build that. A lot of time.

  209. Becca says:

    a friend in high school named Kaelee. She was the preacher’s daughter, but she was the most authentic person I’d ever seen. It astounded me. She would very earnestly ask for prayer because she didn’t feel like worshipping God that day, or because she felt selfish because of this, or… etc..

  210. alece says:

    i feel like i missed a lot of opportunities with you, smiley-roo. and i’m sorry for that. truly.

    i’m glad we’re making up for it.

  211. Brandy says:

    ROO!

    You’ve been lurking my blog? Or you’ve been lurking this convo?

    If it’s my blog, say HEY! And thank you for the comps, but I think everyone else in blogland is so eloguent that I don’t even try to post something of that standard. ;-) I just blog about poop and diapers and kid conversations. HAHA!!

  212. Becca says:

    She was not afraid to laid bare to admit she was being a sinful human (we don’t like to admit that, like the elephant in the room, kinda…), but she loved Jesus with her whole heart, and she shared her heart with anyone she could.

  213. alece says:

    bran — yes yes yes! we can GIVE based on how we GET each other!

    becca — wow… i still have a hard time asking for prayer for genuine personal needs. which, when i think about it, makes me feel like a shallow christian.

  214. Heidi
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    Wow. Mine was .. Barbara.. She actually shared Christ with me Many years ago.

    But we lost contact in for about 15 years, Yes brandy I’m old.

    And we just caught up in about 10 seconds about 3 months ago.

  215. Brandy says:

    @Becca: we don’t like to admit that, like the elephant in the room, kinda…

    Which is why I decided to post about my conversation with Dylan and the “bad words” *blush*

    *sigh*

  216. roo says:

    I blame me. I was awkward. I’m much better at relating to people, now. And someday, we will fix that in person, too. :D
    Becca – wow. See, that’s something that gets me. I have a hard time sharing some things like that because I feel like I’m simply pointing out my inadequacies. Is that unauthentic? I suppose I do share those things sometimes. In fact, I’m working up a blog for one of the next couple days on something like that. But still…

  217. alece says:

    brandy — i loved you even more for that post.

    heidi — how wonderful that you reconnected!

  218. Becca says:

    I’d agree- I feel like I’m pointing out inadequacies sometimes, too. But…it is truth- the flesh (as opposed to the spirit) is uggggly.

  219. Brandy says:

    Heidi, you are not old. My own mom isn’t even old. ;-)

    Alece, I do think you have to be guarded somewhat especially early on in a friendship. If you are totally out there and open you could scare the person off. HA!! Seriously though. We all come with a LOT of baggage. Unfortunately.

    For instance…
    right now I’m fighting with my sister in law
    my mom just got divorced and I get to hear about it every.single.day.
    my sister is in HUGE dept and keeps asking for money I don’t have to give her
    Jake and I struggle with certain marital issues.

    Now had I come out with all of that my first time here or even in one of our first emails back and forth you may have thought “wow that’s a lot of baggage I don’t want to take on” (or not! *wink*) but that would have been overwhelming. And that’s all the stuff I want to blog about, but privately. I don’t mind sharing it, just not on my blog. y/k?

    Mostly b/c they all read my blog, but other than that…. haha!

  220. Heidi
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    Yeah it was.. Alot of ground to cover…

    Okay another question, I feel like Diane Sawyer.

    Does Authenticity hurt? or do we make it painful and scary?

    Can someone truly be real and tell the truth all the time?

  221. roo says:

    Yeah.
    I’ve also had friends who did this to get attention. So sometimes I cringe and hold back because I don’t want other people to assume that of me.
    *Big Sigh* It is uggggly. And I wish it would be a little neater.

  222. Brandy says:

    thank you for the love even after that blog post. ;-) I really really hesitated. But, I don’t want to paint a perfect picture and on a blog it’s so easy to do that.

  223. Brandy says:

    oh Heidi you have no idea how this hits HEAD ON to something I had to go through earlier tonight. *sigh*

  224. alece says:

    bran — i certainly would scare someone off!

    thanks for sharing comfortable enough to share some of your baggage. and i agree on not writing all that on a blog; i don’t either. (if you hadn’t noticed!) that’s why God created email.

    i want to know all that about you, because i care for you as a person. and while it may have been overwhelming (in the sense of me wanting to reach out to you in the best way possible but not really knowing how), i wouldn’t have run and hid if you’d said all that to me early on (just so you know)

  225. Heidi
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    Brandy. thanks I don’t think 41 is old either

  226. Becca says:

    I think authenticity can hurt sometimes. I think you can share something, and someone will not learn from your mistake. Or they laugh, or they never mention your struggle again- It reminds me of that verse that warns us not to give pearls to swine…

    It can also remind us–convict us–of how dirty we used to be, and that can be painful. Or perhaps how selfish we’re currently acting.

  227. alece says:

    authenticity seems to be painful for me, most of the time. but i don’t know if i’m the one making it that way…

  228. roo says:

    Wow. Baggage is another topic entirely. Authenticity doesn’t need to be unloading… but I think that when you reach a point of deep authenticity, you have to be able and willing (even if it doesn’t happen always) to hear and share those things.

  229. Brandy says:

    thanks. ;-)

    Like Roo and Becca pointed out, sometimes I worry that it sounds like a “me me me” topic too. But the other side to that is then I get to listen to someone else now who is more comfortable b/c I shared. Ya gotta give to get! ;-)

    email rocks. haha!

  230. roo says:

    And I think authenticity for me has been painful. Mostly because it does involve some baggage of some sort. A brutal honesty of sorts that isn’t easy on the teller or the hearer. I don’t think that twinge of pain is avoidable.

  231. Brandy says:

    good point Roo….authenticity doesn’t need to be unloading.

    Profound thought for the day…..check! ;-)

    I agree, and sometimes I teeter on the edge of saying too much, and I think that’s where the super extrovert part of me is a negative thing. I’ve always said I am an open book, and over the years I have learned where that can be a bad thing.

  232. Brandy says:

    “I don’t think that twinge of pain is avoidable.” which is why sometimes I sugar coat an opinion with people I am afraid of having that confrontation with. Confrontation as a result of authenticity has never been good for me. eeks. Makes me nervous.

  233. alece says:

    heidi, as for your other question — “Can someone truly be real and tell the truth all the time?”

    wow.

    i strive to tell the truth all the time, but i know i fail… and to me, my truthfulness doesn’t mean EVERYTHING. i will always try to answer honestly, but that might mean just not saying the rest of the “truth” i’m actually thinking or feeling.

  234. Heidi
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    I agree with all you gals.

    But when do you stop? I find myself in that trap alot!!!

  235. Brandy says:

    ” but that might mean just not saying the rest of the “truth” i’m actually thinking or feeling.”

    that’s what I meant by sugar coating. ;-)

  236. alece says:

    yeah – see, bran, i’m not sure if that’s wrong (sugar-coating, telling an untruth by not telling the full truth, yadda yadda) or if that’s wise…

  237. Brandy says:

    maybe you stop when you know that something you say could hurt the other person? And is it neccessary? If not, then pass maybe? That’s tough.

  238. alece says:

    heidi – “when do you stop?” what do you mean?

  239. roo says:

    Mmmm, I’d say that’s a tough thing.
    Something David and I talked about the other day was an e-mail he got that was kinda confrontational… from an acquaintance of his… and David was trying to figure out how to answer it. Now, this person did not need to be confronted about any behavior, and the situation could have gotten sticky, but David addressed the matter with brevity and honesty, though not the entire truth… because the entire truth would have been needlessly hurtful. Hurt was avoided, and unnecessary. Does that make sense?

  240. Brandy says:

    I didn’t mean telling an UNtruth, I just meant not telling ALL of my opinion.

    Like… someone recently asked me if I thought them doing a home remodeling project when they had just gone down to one income would make people raise an eyebrow and if I thought they shouldn’t do it. My response: It’s your money you should be able to do what you want and if you think it’s wise then go ahead. She didn’t need to know that I thought it was a bad idea b/c in the end, it was her money and her decision. Had I told her I thought it was a bad idea I know her well enough to know it would have hurt her feelings. I didn’t tell her to do it or not do it…. it wasn’t my decision. If that all makes sense…. *sigh*

  241. alece says:

    i feel as though i grew up with a sense that “me” wasn’t enough. i’ve never been right enough, spiritual enough, open enough, etc. and in my dealing with that, i think i’ve confused myself a bit. i never know what levels of any of those things are right, if there even is a right.

    i dunno where my brain was going with that thought; it just seemed to stop.

  242. alece says:

    roo — makes total sense.

    bran — mmm… yeah. i get it.

  243. Brandy says:

    that thought makes me choke up Alece.

    I went through a few years of counseling to sort out feelings like those and a number of others. Counseling is gooooood. ;-)

  244. Heidi
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    Alece,

    Man this was a good topic. We are seriously having some church here.

    Okay, what I was trying to say, is when you carry baggage and not neccessarily authentic, you tend to spill everything when you find that special person.

    When do stop? Is there a balance?

    I would hate and sometimes I still hold back because I don’t want suffocate a new friend with my baggage.

  245. roo says:

    Alece, I get it. And I think that’s one of the things I can struggle with at times. Something to remember: don’t overanalyze. I know that analysis is good, but sometimes it’s more detrimental. Alece, as-is, is a wonderful, wonderful woman. She’s been a mentor to many (including myself) and a great friend (same). We can always improve, but that’s not because we’re on the bottom rung.

  246. roo says:

    I think, Heidi, that someone above said something along the lines of give as you get. It has to be mutual. If the other person isn’t opening up ever, then maybe it’s time to ask questions, or let silence kick in. Though it does feel good to unload, I also understand the burden it can be to the other person if it’s not a sharing each others’ burdens deal.

  247. Heidi
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    Alece- I have felt for years of not being good enough. But who trained us not to be good enough?? Because I want to go back and restart at that point and kick in the pants who’d told me that.

    Because I lost many years back there.

  248. alece says:

    heidi — yes!! i totally get that. i’ve been on the verge (for months) of trying to articulate something quite like that. i have an underlying fear of smothering someone… like i’m jumping in with both feet and investing all of me and that other person is like, “woah… hold up…”

    ouch.

  249. Brandy says:

    Heidi “we’re having some church here” heehee yes ma’am. :D (and I say ma’am to everyone so it’s not an insult *wink*)

    When do you stop? Is there a balance?

    I think it truly depends on the friend. My friend Toni…. there’s nothing I don’t tell her. Nothing really. She’s my “go to” person for just about everything. Only now b/c we’ve been friends long enough she knows the back story to everything. And sometimes, explaining a back story to a new friend is exhausting…emotionally.

    Don’t want to suffocate a new friend with baggage…I understand. But on the other hand, I feel very humbled and honored when a friend (new or otherwise) feels they can confide in me. I feel like it is a testament of the friendship.

  250. alece says:

    roo — thanks for the reminder not to over-analyze. i need to hear that.

  251. Heidi
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    Brandy- I TOTALLY AGREE!!

  252. alece says:

    heidi — the thing is, i don’t recall ever being told that. not directly. not in so few words. but the message was broadcast loud and clear through conversations, comments, grudges, silent treatments, loud huffs, overheard talks, attitudes, and actions.

    and it’s still my choice to receive it. to hold it. to hear it that way.

    why is it easier to believe the words of a meteorologist than to trust the words of God?

  253. Becca says:

    Heidi– “I have felt for years of not being good enough. But who trained us not to be good enough?? Because I want to go back and restart at that point and kick in the pants who’d told me that.

    Because I lost many years back there.”

    That was good. Agreed.

  254. roo says:

    I do it too, friend. On a fun note, I don’t play guessing games. Because I over-analyze and *must* have the correct answer. So I’ll think up tons of answers, but I hate vocalizing. :) Something I’m noticing in other areas of my life, too, though.

  255. alece says:

    bran – you hit it on the head with the “back story”. that’s huge for me!

  256. alece says:

    roo — i won a starbucks gift card in a guessing game today! i hate being wrong (did i just say that out loud), but i enjoyed the journey of guessing.

    interesting insight into you …

  257. Heidi
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    why is it easier to believe the words of a meteorologist than to trust the words of God?

    Because we can see the hair color of the meteorolgist!!

  258. Brandy says:

    the back story stinks b/c it’s important to the present but so so so draining to explain and then after a while you feel like you’ve burdened that person with your hum drum jerry springer life.

    A friend was asking me the back story to my sister a few weeks ago and there is SO MUCH history there, that it got to be a sore thing for me. Not that I didn’t want this person to understand, it was just…. I don’t know how to explain it. I wanted to talk about it, but I was feeling rushed and after a bit I sounded whiney to myself. y/k?

  259. roo says:

    Oh, speaking of the ‘Bucks, I need to take my friend Beka out to coffee sometime this weekend if I get a chance. :) She’s my co-coordinator for the orientation that is coming up soon.
    Sorry. I digress. ;)

  260. Brandy says:

    Heidi, I LOVE what you said! HA!! SO TRUE! And we can audibly HEAR the meteorologists voice…that’s big for me.

  261. roo says:

    Oh, NO, Heidi! I’m so ADD tonight that “hair color” made me want to ask ‘Lece if she got my pics – and what she thinks of me with bangs… because it’s happening tomorrow! :D

  262. roo says:

    Bran, I totally understand. Back-story is SO hard because it’s entwined in a lot of other back-story that is sorta-but-not-really related… and then it all gets mussed.

  263. alece says:

    bran — yeah. i know what you mean. sometimes i want to be able to talk about my present, without having to explain the whole back story. and sometimes, there’s a freedom that comes in explaining it all again — and discovering that i’m able to tell it with less hurt or bitterness or anger. those times are rare. shame.

  264. Heidi
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    Back stories are like underbrush in Ca. Every once in awhile, we need to clear it and allow healing. So when new friendships do come or even restoring old ones, you start with a new crop.

    Hope that makes sense.

  265. alece says:

    roo — totally got it! sorry i didn’t answer yet. now that i know tomorrow’s the big day, i’ll send a reply tonight!

  266. alece says:

    (you are gonna look even hotter!)

  267. Becca says:

    I’m caught up now.
    Back-story is kinda like all the stuffed animals you still have in your house. Maybe they’re shoved into drawers, maybe they’re on your bed…but they go with you when you move, and they need explanation sometimes.
    I found that recalling something can bring much clarity and right perspective sometimes.

    Other times it helps me to feel sad about things that I didn’t at the time. That sounds morbid, but…I tend to shove things in places where I won’t have to think of them.

  268. alece says:

    heidi — new crop as in don’t rehash that old stuff? or do rehash it?

  269. Brandy says:

    completely understood.

    And Roo, yes it is all entwined. *sigh*

    Alece, I so much want to blog about my present b/c I want feedback or even just to know someone knows what’s going on, but usually the things I want to blog about concern family matters, and those people read my blog. So it all goes into an email or a phone call. I’m a great phone conversationalist….hahaha….I live on the phone…and the blog. *blush*

  270. roo says:

    HA! Yeah, well… I hope the world can handle the hotter me. :D And no worries. I figured you were busy – I’m sure busy, myself.

  271. Brandy says:

    “Other times it helps me to feel sad about things that I didn’t at the time. That sounds morbid, but…I tend to shove things in places where I won’t have to think of them.”

    GIRL! That is so where I am at all the time…. I rarely cry about stuff b/c I don’t have time for it, but occasionally if I let myself go back and feel sad, I can finally deal with it.

  272. alece says:

    bran — i hope you know i’m always an email, phone call, or text message away!

  273. alece says:

    “because i don’t have time for it” — that’s what i tell myself, too. often it is that, but probably equally often it’s just that i’d rather NOT really face and feel.

    i’m learning.

  274. roo says:

    Oh, and… Alece… there was question about you getting it – my mom didn’t get it when I sent it to her around the same time, so… yep. No worries!

  275. Brandy says:

    haha!

    Did you read on Mandy’s blog where I said that I wanted to exchange numbers with some blog friends but was nervous too for fear of them realizing ‘oh I don’t like her’ haha!!

    I should probably start doing that soon with some you. ;-) hehehe

  276. alece says:

    (thanks, smiley!)

  277. Heidi
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    saying:

    If we live in the present, we’re satisfied. But if we don’t deal with past healthy, then it suffocates us and we feel like we are being untruthful all over again

    I want to start new friendships healthy. I want to be able to share my life good and ugly over a cup of tea on a comfy coach somewhere or even through email and be ABLE to say…

    I was there… BUT GOD BROUGHT ME HERE!!!

  278. Brandy says:

    oh yes, I’d prefer NOT to feel at times. It’s so much easier that way. ;-) Truly.

  279. alece says:

    i didn’t read that comment… but you know? that’s been my biggest fear in all this. that somehow the me that comes across in the blogosphere is more alluring than the me in real life.

    but i’m learning that i’ll have to find that out the hard way!

    and === for the most part === i’m okay with that.

  280. Brandy says:

    yeah, my big worry is I’m know I’m not as funny or witty or quick in real life. Not that I am so much on blogs, but I have the time to think about what I am going to say on here….and I get to back space. ;-) haha!

  281. alece says:

    amen, heidi! amen!

  282. alece says:

    backspace is definitely one of my closest friends. i think that may be the highest on the list of reasons i tend to prefer to type than talk!

  283. Brandy says:

    I was there but God brought me here…..

    sometimes I need to say “I’m still there” *blush*

  284. Heidi
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    Brandy- I can so relate. I’m so much more witty on the blogs.

  285. Brandy says:

    YES! Me too! I tend to be a blurter…haha… and being online helps me curb that. And I can process what I am going to say before I say it…which is good in some instances.

    And I don’t always want to respond right away, so a lot of times I’ll be reading comments on mine and not reply for a while, so I can think. Or if I read a post, I don’t always comment right away. I think. ;-)

  286. Becca says:

    Brandy: Agreed. But that doesn’t mean He’s not working. I just happen to move at the rate of a snail.

  287. alece says:

    sometimes i need to say “i’m still there”

    yes.

    yes.

    yes.

  288. Brandy says:

    Heidi, isn’t it funny the freedom that blogs can give? Or at least the sense of freedom. I say things here I would NEVER say face to face. ESPECIALLY during our last comment chat about the heels and trenchcoats. HAHA!!

  289. Heidi
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    Brandy–

    But your not..

    If you were still back there.. you wouldn’t be here tonight!!!

  290. alece says:

    and i think we CAN say “i’m still there” to those we trust the most. to those we are closest to.

  291. roo says:

    I’m still there.
    *raises hand*

  292. Brandy says:

    Becca, true, He is working. I just feel stubborn at times. Like, I am afraid to move forward. That is the part of me that would feel embarrassed to say “I’m still there”

    Alece, yes and yes again. ;-)

  293. Heidi
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    Okay, did I miss my own point.

    Why would you want to be “there”?

  294. alece says:

    in a general sense, i feel i need to be saying that more to everybody. i mean that i need to feel more comfortable with not appearing as though i have it all together (cause i clearly don’t).

    but… in the specific sense of talking through those things, that should be reserved for sharing with those i trust and have a level of transparency and intimacy with.

  295. Becca says:

    I just feel like I’m more eloquent when I write, and I’m hardly funny on blogs. I feel like the bulk of my conversation, particularly when I meet people for the first time, is humorous.

    I always want to refer people to my blog because I feel my heart sticks out there the best. Who knows, though.

  296. Brandy says:

    Heidi :D *BIG SMILE*

    Alece, agreed. It’s good to reveal that at some point.

    I struggle with “going deep” at times though too…. b/c then it makes me deal with stuff. UGH. I was NOT a good counseling patient. HAHA!!

    “I don’t have time to deal!” is usually what goes through my mind. ;-)

  297. Becca says:

    “Being there” — I don’t think it’s a desire as much as it is a confession.

  298. alece says:

    yes (to becca)

  299. Brandy says:

    why would you want to be there?

    There is comforting sometimes…. for someone who struggles with change anyway. Okay, for instance (Alece help me out here)…. where was that conversation we had about opening the blinds?? Where we said the dark was sometimes comforting?

    There is kind of like that.

  300. Heidi
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    Alece- I don’t have it together..

    in example:
    Trust me as the clocks ticks to my son’s surgery, I’m getting more jittery than ever.

    But… If I live in the past… I can never get the blessings of the future.

  301. Brandy says:

    oh definately a confession…. and a fear of moving forward.

  302. Becca says:

    When I was in counseling, it took her several sessions to get me to tell her what I was really thinking for the first few meetings. After that, I came to expect that she’d ask pointed questions, and I couldn’t skirt. Ha.
    That doesn’t mean I mastered it. haha.

  303. alece says:

    i have to remind myself of this fact often:

    even jesus was closer to 3 of his 12 disciples.

    that doesn’t mean he was unauthentic with the other 9, or even with the masses and crowds that followed him, listened to him, were touched by him. he just went to a different level of intimacy/authenticity with those 3.

  304. Brandy says:

    I’m jittery right now. ;-) You’re in good company Heidi. ;-)

  305. Heidi
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    Brandy- is the solace of the blinds because you already accomplished that and you feel like your successful.

    But when the blinds open up are you scared away at the thought of “rehashing” or of failure?

  306. Brandy says:

    different level….that is totally it.

    I am “ME” with everyone, but the levels are different. I am never fake, b/c it’s not in me to be fake. But like you said before, just a different slice of me.

  307. Brandy says:

    I hate the f word. I really really do.

    and rehashing is never good….b/c in my experience, being authentic with certain people ALWAYS involves rehashing.

  308. alece says:

    yes. i think i’m starting to get a heart-understand of what it means for ME to be authentic…

  309. roo says:

    Oh, dear ladies – I think I am about to die. I didn’t get enough sleep last night, and tomorrow I’ll be doing the stressful haircut-at-a-totally-new-place thing. I might have to say goodnight. It’s been good (again. finally.)!

  310. Brandy says:

    Becca, you just described my counseling. HAHA!!

    It was like the floodgates opened when she finally got me to open up about my real issue…the underlying issue to everything. *sigh*

  311. alece says:

    smiley — g’night, friend. thank you for jumping in on this with us. hope it’s been as good for you as it is for me! (“that’s what he said!”)

  312. Heidi
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    Roo.. You’ll have to show us photos!!

    Goodnight new friend!!

  313. Brandy says:

    *GASP* Haircut at a totally new place…..oh girl I feel for you…I’ve been here 4 months and have yet to go get mine done. I HATE starting a new place. And this comes from a regular “goin’ to get my hair done be back in several hours” girl. ;-)

  314. roo says:

    OHHHHHHHHH. good one, ‘lece! you get a high-five for that one. and then some.
    And I’ll be back soon. I love the girl time!

  315. alece says:

    4 months?! bran – i started keeping track of you right before you moved. i can’t believe it’s been that long already!!

  316. Brandy says:

    I so don’t get the “that’s what she said” thing. ?????

  317. Becca says:

    Night, Roo.
    (I love you!)

  318. alece says:

    i didn’t either — hang on, bran – i’ll find you a link!

  319. roo says:

    I will post fotos on my blog. I’ve got many people waiting for them. ;) I’m ‘cited! And yes, I’m addicted to this blog. Nice, Brandy! My mom and I did it together for ages – we’d take off and get our hair done, and hit up the mall and Target. Goooood times.

  320. Brandy says:

    yes ma’am….it has been that long. Crazy huh?

  321. roo says:

    YOU TOO, Becca.
    (I need your number.)
    ‘Lece, be expecting a call or a pic message tomorrow. ;)

  322. Brandy says:

    I still email my hair lady from home. I love her. Oh do I love her. She was like a cheap counselor in between the expensive one. And a christian to boot! :lol: HA!!

  323. roo says:

    Aaaaaaaaaaand, I’m out.

  324. alece says:

    suh-weet, roo! can’t wait. ‘night, friend!

    bran – “a cheap counselor in between the expensive ones.” — that’s what THIS is tonight! ha ha!

  325. Becca says:

    I’ve never paid for counseling

  326. alece says:

    i’d make someone rich!

  327. Brandy says:

    ALECE!!! I think I just woke up the ENTIRE neighborhood….that video clip was HILARIOUS!! OH MAN OH MAN!! Tears!! Insane giggling now…oh dear.

    This IS counseling!!! Seriously. It’s great. :D

    Becca, well techically I didn’t pay for it either. TriCare did. ;-) haha

  328. alece says:

    heidi – whatcha thinking?

  329. Heidi
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    me neither… I just blog!!

  330. alece says:

    and these blog-chats we have, both the insanely crazy and the deeply serious, are sooooo good for me.

    take 2 of these and call me in the morning!

  331. Heidi
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    I can’t imagine what people say in the morning when they read these

  332. alece says:

    mandy — YOU ARE! you’re gettin’ ready for this weekend, aren’t you!?!? :-)

  333. Heidi
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    We invited you.. Where did you go Georgia?

  334. Brandy says:

    I did counseling before I knew blogging existed. ;-)

    But seriously, it was much needed. LOL

    OOOH Mandy graced us! You’re up late!

  335. i’m usually like a deer in headlights…. but i haven’t even tried to read through tonite’s comments.

  336. Brandy says:

    what’s this weekend?! :D

  337. alece says:

    a whole slew of questions/thoughts have opened in my brain (like the proverbial can of worms)… sheesh.

  338. Heidi
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    Thank you for asking, but I didn’t want to be a busybody

  339. B: i’m having a slumber party at my house this weekend…. poor drew.

  340. Becca says:

    How many comments are there?

  341. Heidi
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    Hopely Alece… You’ll write about them here!!!!

  342. Heidi
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    got earthquakes?

    Because I would so be there!!!

  343. alece says:

    i can’t believe you blogged through an earthquake today, heidi. that was wild.

  344. Becca says:

    I’d go to a slumber partay. If there were musical instruments involved.

  345. Heidi
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    It’s California!!

  346. Heidi
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    are you musical Becca?

  347. Becca says:

    Yep. I like to fiddle with a little geetar and drums.

  348. Brandy says:

    a slumber party!! I wanna be cool and have a slumber party….seriously…. that sounds like fun!

    hey look at you throwing slumber parties when you didn’t know anyone when you moved there…. I think of you often when I think “WHEN will I meet people?!”

  349. Brandy says:

    oh how I want to play the geetar

  350. Heidi
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    I just lloked at your blog…

    Are you in SA? and talk to ALece everyday?!!!

    I cannot imagine the phone bill!!!

  351. Becca says:

    haha. I haven’t changed that in a long time. I’m in Wisconsin. I did the year-long internship with Thrive.

  352. Heidi
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    haha!!!

    So what music do you fancy?

  353. Brandy says:

    Becca, where in Wisconsin? That is where my best phone friend Toni lives. ;-)

  354. alece says:

    “slumber party” conjures up weird childhood memories and running home in pajamas in the middle of the night from my bff’s house (we were neighbors).

    shame.

    but… i guess it could be fun as adults ????

    ha!

  355. Heidi
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    imagine that all best friends are in WI..

    Hmmm.. I’m left out.. Hmm I’ll have to work that out..

  356. Becca says:

    hmm… to play or to listen to? I’m currently listening to Michael Gungor. I wish I could pick like him. I love, love, love James Taylor. He has this voice that transcends time, and will forever have a “classic” sound.
    I loved the intense and unique harmonies of the mammas and pappas, and I fancied John Denver’s stories…

    but I also very much like Caedmon’s Call, Relient K, Nickel Creek, and John Mayer.

    And Brandy: I live in the Milwaukee area. But my family is moving to Virginia in a few weeks!

  357. Heidi
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    But I would be so worried….

    What would I wear!!

  358. alece says:

    i know — who knew ‘sconsin could be the place to be, eh?!?!

  359. Al: i was never a fan of slumber parties growing up either… but, now, as an adult – it’s GREAT fun!!!

    Bwan: you can come!!!

  360. Becca says:

    Shyah! We even have a pseudo vegas, called osh-vegas.
    It’s everywhere you want to be: Wisconsin.

  361. Heidi
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    I’m more Chicago, Styx, and Jon Mcloughlin.

    I love John Denver– so crazy!!!

  362. alece says:

    “what would i wear!?” exACTly!

  363. Heidi
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    There we go… a blog title.

    What do you wear to a slumber party?

  364. alece says:

    is that the state slogan, becca? it should be if it isn’t! you could sell it to the governor and make millions.

  365. Becca says:

    chicago was a very technical, very fun band…Very full and involved band. I think they’re a little too much for me sometimes. We played a lot of their songs in high school for pep band. I played trumpet. Haha.

    John Denver had a more powerful voice than people thought. Most people thought he couldn’t sing, and was kinda lame, but the truth is- he was down to earth, and sang what was on his heart. He wouldn’t have gone too much farther in the music industry, but he would’ve kept getting lots of tickets sold for shows because of his personality.

  366. Heidi
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    Happy Wednesday to you all…

    Hey Mandy is twisted Wednesday up yet?

  367. what do you wear?
    something. ANY THING. please. or nobody’s invited!

  368. alece says:

    bran only ever wears heels and scarves to her slumber parties.

  369. no twisting this week… sorry. just plain ol’ whatever.

  370. Heidi
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    Brandy will bring the high heels and the scarf..

    And I’ll bring the trench